Page 2 of 2 FirstFirst 12
Results 21 to 32 of 32

Thread: Grading Waldrep's Stuff

  1. #21
    Sabermetric Slut
    Join Date
    Jul 2013
    Location
    Your Mom's Basement
    Posts
    30,087
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    1,740
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    8,834
    Thanked in
    5,906 Posts
    Quote Originally Posted by Strike3urout View Post
    Maybe…but then you basically have Ian Anderson: great change-up, but straight fastball with inconsistent command, and so-so breaking ball. So his ceiling is MOR. It’s not that those aren’t useful, but that is disappointing for a first round pick.
    MOR is disappointing for a late 1st?

  2. The Following User Says Thank You to thewupk For This Useful Post:

    jpx7 (06-18-2024)

  3. #22
    Approaching Buddy Hernandez Territory
    Join Date
    Aug 2013
    Posts
    1,068
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    0
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    124
    Thanked in
    96 Posts
    Rushing someone like him who was just drafted is silly.

  4. #23
    It's OVER 5,000!
    Join Date
    Jun 2016
    Posts
    7,799
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    270
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    1,499
    Thanked in
    1,158 Posts
    Quote Originally Posted by Strike3urout View Post
    Maybe…but then you basically have Ian Anderson: great change-up, but straight fastball with inconsistent command, and so-so breaking ball. So his ceiling is MOR. It’s not that those aren’t useful, but that is disappointing for a first round pick.
    How disappointing is it really for end of the first round?

    If you have two elite pitches and a starter's frame you're gone by the 20s.

  5. The Following User Says Thank You to Southcack77 For This Useful Post:

    jpx7 (06-18-2024)

  6. #24
    It's OVER 5,000!
    Join Date
    Jul 2013
    Posts
    26,627
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    34
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    10,077
    Thanked in
    6,163 Posts
    The movement profile of the split is there in black and white. The numbers are literally there compared to every other split in MLB.

  7. #25
    NL Rookie of the Year
    Join Date
    Jul 2013
    Posts
    2,539
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    19
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    772
    Thanked in
    523 Posts
    Enscheff and the data doesn't lie. I stated this a few times noting the exact same data as shown. That splitter is useless to mlb hitters who have a smidgen of an eye. I think he can be an effective reliever..but dream on him starting. Doesn't look good though.

  8. #26
    Spring Training Invitee
    Join Date
    Aug 2013
    Posts
    299
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    5
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    43
    Thanked in
    33 Posts
    Quote Originally Posted by thewupk View Post
    MOR is disappointing for a late 1st?
    No…but that is his CEILING. It’s just as likely that he ends up a reliever or AAAA starter.

    Of course, all assuming the pitchfx data stays consistent, and there is no remarkable improvement to his command.

  9. #27
    Arbitration Eligible
    Join Date
    Jul 2013
    Posts
    2,922
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    29
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    924
    Thanked in
    621 Posts
    Question about Waldreps split. I haven't really seen it but could it be one of those things where it's so good it's bad like Luke Jackson's slider? Hitters just spit on it and wait for the other stuff

  10. #28
    It's OVER 5,000! striker42's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2013
    Posts
    10,707
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    389
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    3,210
    Thanked in
    2,056 Posts
    The profile is a little reminiscent of Chris Rietsma.

  11. #29
    Connoisseur of Minors zitothebrave's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2013
    Location
    DANGERZONE
    Posts
    25,013
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    1,436
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    3,462
    Thanked in
    2,486 Posts
    Quote Originally Posted by striker42 View Post
    The profile is a little reminiscent of Chris Rietsma.
    So amazing?
    Stockholm, more densely populated than NYC - sturg

  12. The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to zitothebrave For This Useful Post:

    jpx7 (06-21-2024), thewupk (06-21-2024)

  13. #30
    It's OVER 5,000!
    Join Date
    Jul 2013
    Posts
    26,627
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    34
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    10,077
    Thanked in
    6,163 Posts
    Quote Originally Posted by Slippyjms View Post
    Question about Waldreps split. I haven't really seen it but could it be one of those things where it's so good it's bad like Luke Jackson's slider? Hitters just spit on it and wait for the other stuff
    I’m not sure what this means. Luke Jackson had a good slider.

  14. #31
    Sabermetric Slut
    Join Date
    Jul 2013
    Location
    Your Mom's Basement
    Posts
    30,087
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    1,740
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    8,834
    Thanked in
    5,906 Posts
    Quote Originally Posted by zitothebrave View Post
    So amazing?
    Not surrpised you'd come out of the woodwork for a Rietsma reference

  15. #32
    Making Atlanta Great Again!
    #MAGA!

    Promises MADE, Promises KEPT!
    The Chosen One's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2013
    Location
    School of Hard Cox
    Posts
    25,473
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    8,620
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    9,799
    Thanked in
    5,782 Posts
    Who is Rietsma?

    It was Retisma.

    Definitely not Reitsma.
    Forever Fredi


Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •